oneandonlymatt ([info]oneandonlymatt) wrote,

Yurts, of course!

Ok, so Laura finally talked me into it. Here I am.

Let's start with yurts. I've been thinking a lot about yurts lately. As anyone who knows me is aware, I am very interested in alternative building of all sorts, and I have a strong desire to build something of my own sometime soon. In the past two years, I've visited Taos, New Mexico and Plattsburgh, New York to learn about Earthships (http://www.earthship.org/) and Cordwood Masonry (http://www.cordwoodmasonry.com/Cordwood.html. I love both of those approaches, but they (and all of the others I am considering) take a while to build, and it helps to have decent temporary shelter while you are in the process. That is where yurts come in (http://www.yurts-r-us.com/). Easy to assemble, comfortable, relatively affordable, mobile, and fun to say - what more could you want? They make me want to dress up like a mongol and ride around on a horse and sack villages. Anyone know where any sackable villages are?

Laura and I are starting to look around for places to buy some land to move our crazy dreams from fantasy to reality. Our goal is to build multiple buildings over time. We'd live there when we felt like it, and there would be room for people come and go as they please. We're making another trip to Asheville, NC in a few weeks to look around again. Our timeframe is 2 to 5 years, but as is the case with most dreams, you never know how it will turn out. Still, the process is fun and I've learned a lot about building, so I am sure I will put those skills to use somehow, someday.

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[info]watch4whales

October 3 2006, 15:38:05 UTC 5 years ago

Oh now you tell me. Those things are cheaper than my stupid mobile home and I've told a billion people now - I want a round house. Seriously. Like totally round with no corners. It might make getting appliances tricky but I want it to be round.

[info]radiantbaby

October 3 2006, 16:16:42 UTC 5 years ago

I am fascinated with such things as well, but then again [info]justben and I are really into the idea of intentional communities which lends itself to similar construction-oriented pursuits.

Good luck with finding the right land for your dream. :)

[info]justben

October 4 2006, 05:14:49 UTC 5 years ago

Because every good journal begins with a yurt.

Sounds like nifty plans. Part of me has long wanted some sort of intentional community type setup, maybe out in the middle of nowhere. For me, though, I get torn: middle of nowhere is away from the city, and I do like my cities. In the city, on the other hand, gets damned expensive damned fast.

[info]oneandonlymatt

October 4 2006, 16:50:18 UTC 5 years ago

I have the same issues with living in the middle of nowhere - I need to be in the city at least part time. Our hope is that we can find off the grid land cheap enough to where we could use the yurt / cabin / whatever we built as a part time home, and live in the city (or maybe various cities) the rest of the time. The hardest part is making the finances work, but we'd be willing to take some chances if we had the Yurt to retreat to if times got tough.

In regards to intentional communities - Laura and I have been talking about various situations for a while now. I think we lean a little more towards co-housing rather than a true intentional community, but one way or another we have a great interest in living near people we choose to be around (and who choose to be around us).

[info]justben

October 5 2006, 14:58:10 UTC 5 years ago

One thing I always find it easy to forget when planning long-range finances is that once my real estate mortgage is paid off, my living expenses will go down by a third or more. This won't affect me in my current home for another twenty years or so, but it's certainly worth noting that a patch of land and a yurt out it the middle of nowhere is a hell of a lot cheaper than a moderately nice house is a metro area. That makes the finances rather easier.

For me, the biggest trouble with living in the middle of nowhere is getting a reasonably stimulating job away from the city. My background's in computer security development and research. I'm not stuck on staying in security or even technology for the rest of my life, but it's hard to conceive of a job in another field that's both intellectually stimulating enough to keep me happy and yet easy enough to enter that I don't have to spend another ten years of my life preparing for a shot at maybe getting to the fun stuff. I could conceivably start doing programming and security over the net from the middle of nowhere, but I'm too damned social to work alone in a cave forever. Hmm, maybe what I need is a yurtful of friendly tech geeks to start an off-the-wall technology consulting business. That would be pretty damned nifty, actually.

On another tangent, what's the difference in your parlance between co-housing and intentional community? I'm not super-familiar with the terms.

[info]oneandonlymatt

October 5 2006, 19:55:17 UTC 5 years ago

I have many of the same reservations when it comes to jobs / finances and their affects on my ability to live in a less conventional manner. Even though I have a great, stimulating, mostly fun job at a company that I love, I've come to the conclusion that I'm unlikely to be able to lead the life I want to while working a "normal" job. I like people, challenges, and money, though, so I'm not quite ready to retire to a hut and eat dirt. I've dreamed up a few alternatives that I think could work (provided I have the courage to try them). I'll hold off on the details for now, but I'm sure it will come up in future conversations / posts.

To answer your question, my understanding is that co-housing is more informal of an association than an intentional community. It is simply a number of people who choose to live in close proximity (usually personally-owned homes, condos, or apartments in the same neighborhood) and spend time with one another on a very regular basis for whatever purpose they share. Intentional communities usually involve more sharing of finances, property, labor, and other resources. I've seen the terms used interchangeably, but that is the most common distinction I've come across.

[info]justben

October 7 2006, 01:49:26 UTC 5 years ago

Nifty. Thanks for the clarification.

Yeah, looking forward to more coming up in posts and convos :-)

[info]radiantbaby

October 8 2006, 04:57:43 UTC 5 years ago

Not on topic at all, but...

Here is a link to my post that had the cool video with the percussionists in the apartment. I am sure you would really appreciate it:

http://radiantbaby.livejournal.com/313075.html
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